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Trinidad and Tobago Steelband Panorama and Carnival Schedule 2013

2013 Panorama Info Complete

Jan. 10, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  National Single Pan Preliminaries - Tobago Region steelbands.  Time:  TBA  Venue:  TBA
     

Jan. 11, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Single Pan Preliminaries - North Region steelbands.  Time:  7:00 p.m.  Venue:  TBA
     

Jan. 12, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Single Pan Preliminaries -South/Central Region steelbands.  Time:  3:00 p.m.  Venues:  TBA in TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Jan. 13, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Single Pan Preliminaries -East Region steelbands.  Time:  3:00 p.m.  Venues:  Arima Velodrome -  TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Jan. 17, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Small and Medium Conventional Steel Orchestra Preliminaries - Tobago Region steel orchestras.  Time:  7:00 p.m.  Venue:  TBA - TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Jan. 18, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Small and Medium Conventional Steel Orchestra Preliminaries - Northern Region steel orchestras.  Time:  7:00 p.m.  Venue:  TBA - TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Jan. 19, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Small and Medium Conventional Steel Orchestra Preliminaries - South/Central Region steel orchestras.  Time:  7:00 p.m.  Venue:  Skinner Park, San Fernando. TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I. 
     

Jan. 20, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Small and Medium Conventional Steel Orchestra Preliminaries - Eastern Region steel orchestras.  Time:  3:00 p.m.  Venue:  Arima Velodrome, Arima TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Jan. 21, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama competition:  Large Conventional Steel Orchestras:  Preliminaries Visit/Players Check - All Regions:  East, North, South/Central and Tobago.  Time: 7:00 p.m. Venues:  respective panyards across TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Jan. 27, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Steelband Panorama Semi-Finals:  featuring Small, Medium and Large conventional steel orchestras.  Time:  9:00 a.m.  Venue:  Queen’s Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Feb. 2, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National 2013 Panorama competition: Single Pan Semi-finals.  Time: 6:00 p.m.  Venue: TBA, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Feb. 3, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Junior Panorama 2013 - Finals: features junior steel orchestras in the Primary Schools category, the Secondary Schools category and the Non-Schools category. Time: TBA  Venue: the Queen’s Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Feb. 4, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National 2013 ARIMA Panorama featuring ARIMA Steel Orchestras. Time: 7:00 p.m.  Venue:  Velodrome, Arima, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Feb. 5, 2013

  • Tobago House of Assembly (THA) 2013 Panorama finals - features Single-Pan bands and Small, Medium & Large Conventional steel orchestras Time: 7:00 p.m.  Venue:  TBA -  TOBAGO, W.I.

Feb. 7, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Panorama Finals 2013 - Single-Pan Bands and Small Conventional Steel Orchestras Time: 8:00am - 5:00 p.m.  Venue:  Skinner Park, San Fernando, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Feb. 9, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago National Steelband Panorama 2013 FINALS Competition - featuring Large and Medium conventional steel orchestras.  Time: 7:00 p.m.  Venue:  Queen’s Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, W.I.
     

Feb. 11, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago Carnival
     

Feb. 12, 2013

  • Trinidad & Tobago Carnival
     

Feb. 16, 2013

  • Annual Champs of Steel +Plus features performances from Steelband Panorama Champions in respective categories, soca stars and more.  Time:  8:00 p.m.  Venue:  Queen’s Park Savannah, Port-of-Spain, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO. W.I.
     

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Comment by Bertel Gittens on October 4, 2012 at 11:56am

Glenroy and Cecil, sometines I stand and wonder how serious are we about Steelpan here in T&T? There is so much to be done with the Pan, and yet we see big men running around like boys just to look good at the expense of OUR NATIONAL INSTRUMENT. Its depressing if not embarrassing.

Comment by Glenroy R Joseph on October 4, 2012 at 11:34am

Accountability would be the answer, Bertel, That would be the answer. Backed by stiff legal penalties.

And , like I always say ideas are only ideas- food for thought- to make us consider different ways of doing things.

They don't have to be followed but should stimulate thought, and could be modified where necessary to fit the real life situations.

Comment by Cecil hinkson on October 4, 2012 at 11:33am

Bertel it is sad to say but "cookin of the books" [bad accounting] might be even older than prostitution.

Comment by Andre Williams on October 4, 2012 at 11:30am

Cecil, I aint no economist, just elementry education, but I can see great economic opportunity for the steelbans, if they are in a business mode, the steelbans management have to get the right personel like woodbrook playboyz headed by Brian Kwei Tung to negioate for them, they have plenty peoples in T&T who can lead them to prosperity but they have to change their thinking, In T&T their are to much blaming game, but the pan peoples have to look themselves in the mirror. Do not just put your up your friend for the PRO or Marketing post, they have to do the job, thats is a major problem, a lot of time the public in T&T knows about a steelband events after the event pass, check WST and see if these jokers are using the forum.

The fact of the matter is, starting from pan trinbago they all rufuse to showcase their product (steelpan) on WST, facebook to the world. 2013 is on the horizons the steelbands should be planning to take advantage on WST to showcase what mas they are playing for 2013, when registration is open, they have to be persistant  and vist WST regularly, and market your product (mas) on WST to your fans around the world, right now do you think the steelbands management start planning for 2013???? check out the blame and wining from all of them and they have no business plans on WST for we to help them. With all the steelbands shows that take place in 2012 and continue it is big budget, if the steelbands want to continue treating the instrument like a novelty, sorry for them, I see big $$$$$$$$$

Salah, was a few years ahead of his vision, but you have to be persistant, pan trinbago would NEVER look out for the panman & woman interest. PANMAN & WOMAN HAVE TO FORM THEIR OWN UNION to seek their interest, to much money passing from the Government and Corporate T&T and the steelbands haven't got a clue how this money is being spent. WHO TO BLAME FOR NOT GETTING YOUR SHARE?

So Cecil, I really do not care how much money the bands made, with out the bands NO SHOWS, demands your market value, tell us on WST forum about your steelbands problem in T&T and we will FIX-IT on WST forum guaranteed....

Comment by Bertel Gittens on October 4, 2012 at 11:13am

Glenroy, your idea would be a great one only if accountability and transparency would be the order of the day in local Steelbands. I would be very brave to say that very few steelband managers in T&T know what to do with big money when they get it in hand. And most times with big money in hand, they dont see anyone else. To be positive, your idea is a good one that should be explored. 

Comment by Glenroy R Joseph on October 4, 2012 at 10:44am

I know this may be heresy to some, but maybe it is time we start thinking about using our resources differently.

Much as we wish this to be the case, it is highly unlikely that the resources will ever be available to adequately compensate all the panists that participate in the Panorama.

I know this may never fly, but instead of annually rewarding the top five or so sponsored bands with the lion's share of the available funds that is allocated to the steelbands (and I know that's what happens- the government allocates x amount of dollars to pan every year), how about sharing the funds among the bands as grants, with the stipulation that such funds be used as seed money to allow the bands to adequately prepare to exploit income opportunities at carnival time, or to train and educate their members. 

The bands would be accountable for these funds, of course, and would have to present detailed plans as to what they will do with the money.

It could be developing a legitimate dance (party) bands, carnival Pan Theatres, mas band production, even amplification with the intention of putting a legitimate steelpan music band on the road.

(This of course would be tied to my idea of a month long steelband festival later in the year, with Panorama as its climax.)

These are are only a few ideas , I'm sure others may have even better ideas for advancing the art-form.

And one more thing.

Whenever there is a discussion about the future of pan, some (I assume) younger member would inevitably comment on the fact that we oldsters  like to reflect on the past, as if we should have learnt nothing from over sixty years of pan.

Well , in response, I would like to quote the great poet and philosopher George Santayana, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Comment by Bertel Gittens on October 4, 2012 at 10:36am

Cecil, I hear you with Carnival Tuesday and it MIGHT partly solve the problem, but will the money reach down to the players?

Comment by Bertel Gittens on October 4, 2012 at 9:52am

Glenroy, Cecil, the money that is made by the Steelbands from the winnings at Panorama and other shows does not trickle down in most cases to the average player here, and if it does, it could only pay the transportation cost of each player to and from the panyards for the carnival season. In this modern age of the Steelpan, this cannot work anymore, the players deserve to be well paid if we expect the very best from the steelbands. It is time we start paying players as professionals ( amateur or not) to produce the very best with our national instrument. This is the only way that the steelbands will survive, this is the only way the Panorama will survive. The question is how are we to make this happen? I suspect how we administer the Pan industry is the key.

Comment by Cecil hinkson on October 4, 2012 at 8:33am

Andre, from panorama to the present how much money did anyone of the top 5 bands make with all these pan events yuh talking about? [excluding panorama money] Doh worry the focus IS on the present.

Comment by Andre Williams on October 4, 2012 at 8:01am

I will continue to remind WST forum we are still in the year 2012, from Panorama 2012 to present do you realize how many PAN events are taking place in T&T, to much energy spend on the past.

Question, how many STEELBANDS played mas in 2012 (monday & tuesday) How many STEELBANDS have their own trailers to parade on the streets? Steelbands in T&T are making MAJOR stride economically.

Focus in the present, and give ideas to the steelbands to move forward...

Comment by Cecil hinkson on October 3, 2012 at 10:35pm

Bertel my idea is make carnival Tuesday steelbands only, carnival Monday mas bands only, J'ouvert Sunday.  By doing this steelbands will get at least 50% of the people who played with a mas band on Monday. This will encourage steelbands to play mas  and share in the carnival dollars

Comment by Glenroy R Joseph on October 3, 2012 at 6:31pm

I hear you, Bertel, and I'm fully aware of the "freeco" mentality of many so called pan fans.

However, most pan players are amateurs and their approach to the art-form is amateurish.

And after all, how much pay would you expect to get for six weeks of work, primarily focused on mastering one tune?

And BTW we are all aware of professional panists who are making a decent living off the art-form , as we speak.

And, Cleve Leonard, I also agree that we cannot extend the Carnival "season' since it is tied to a religious holiday.

But we sure can lengthen the "pan season", by moving its main event to later in the year!

Comment by Bertel Gittens on October 3, 2012 at 1:47pm

Regardless of when you fix the Carnival celebrations or arrange so that pan activities happen all through the year, there is NO MONEY TO BE MADE IN PAN for the average player hence the demise of the steelbands in T&T. We need to solve this in our eat - ah - food society. Any ideas ?

Comment by Cleve Leonard on October 3, 2012 at 12:11pm

We will continue to encounter this situation once we link Carnival celebrations to a religious calendar event ( a peculiar historical occurrence!). Would it not be more practical to all interest groups to fix an annual date for Carnival? The only disruption, thereafter, should arise as a result of acts of God, social unrest or war as examples.

Comment by Glenroy R Joseph on October 3, 2012 at 12:10pm

Busy, indeed!

All this pan activity crammed into the first six weeks of the year, competing with calypso tents, soca, chutney soca, carnival mas preparations etc.,ending with a massive climax that is Panorama Finals,in mid February

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Then a relative drought for the rest of the year consisting mainly of smaller, less exciting pan activities.

Am I the only one to see something wrong with this picture? 

Comment by Flavia E. Logie on October 2, 2012 at 8:44pm

Thanks. Looks like a busy time ahead for pan lovers.

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