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Here is a a more all rounded truth of the involvement of class, color and race of a people who invented the pan.  It is true that the Afro Trinidadian were first given the gift of pan, as a replacement for their natural instruments-the African drums. In getting that gift, it also contained the involvement of the rest of the class, color and race of the people of Trinidad and Tobago. The pan therefore cannot be considered to be an African type instrument or an East Indian type instrument or only relegated to be made by the Afro Trinidadian. It is is much wider than any particular class, color or race of people. It is therefore a classless, colorless and raceless musical instrument first absolutely discoverved by the African descent Trinidadian undoubtedly. This discovery however is a slap in the face of all peoples off this world. When one honestly and unbiasly studies all of the historical, social, economic and spiritual facts for the invention of this universal instrument, one see that it cannot really be classified in terms of class, color and race. it has won over all those material designations and now sits freely for anyone regardless of class, color or race to play. Some musical instruments cannot be disassociated with race.  They may never be able to be classified as a universal music instrument. The pan beats all cockfight both human and otherwise and sits in a true world both old and new musical instrument. It's therefore in my opinion a gross insult simply to say it began from the African Trinidadian poor boys, who themselves encouraged all others to come in and help make it, shape it, tune it, play it, sell it and today anyone can manufacture the conventional pan and become multi millionaires. Today, if the Afro Trinidadians are not selling it internationally, then simply saying that the Afro Trinidadians first created it has no real value in this world. That value can only be continued only if the Afro Trinidadian works this truth to their own benefit. Otherwise no one will retain rememberance of this truth of the Afro Trinidadian.  History can only be retained if there is continued invention, intervention, innovation by the Afro Trinidadian. If this stops, then the history could stop.  History then can turn into sentimental value rather than absolute value. Which one is more valuable, sentimental history or absolute or permanent history? Review the following.

http://www.panonthenet.com/history/aho/

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I am not reactint emotionally to anything just stating the truth and a fact, you are talking about the sixties and I am talking way back before then. Do you think that the sixties gives you the right to spew the all that asaninie claptrap.Next you will be telling us all  that the Pan was invented in the sixties, becausing of your craving of self importance

  If you knew and fully understood what those people went through you would never write all that sanctimonous garbage that you did if you think that stretching heating and anything that you describe that took place with you in the sixties is the birth of Pan then I am immotional and affronted at your blatant disrespect that you are showing to the real pioneers of pan. Yes God gave us the gift of the PAN for strength and something to take the pain away and he gave us the fortitude to spread it across the world NO THANKS TO THE HOUSE SLAVE LIKE YOURSELF, who sit on this blogg trying to convince US that we are not worthy to claim this as ours.

You met the Pan here in the sixties are we to be gratefull to you for your CONTRIBUTION and your payback is to deny us the right to claim it. It is a pity that people with big words who believe that they are eloquent in the ways of God his gifts and other things always think that they have a right to hoodwink others by invoking his name.
I am emotional I am a woman I am supposed to be emotional especially against disrespect and abuse. And in my emotion I find you disrespectful and abusive to say the least

. How Dare You

Sidd before going any further,in my last discussion with you, i just played a fool,i had poted 3 questions, which  you had sidelined,deviated from,neglected to answer Truthfully,ignored and had finally given me the Royal Run Around,mark well even though what was asked was factual,aired on CNT and truthful,i,mno scholar,professor scientist at least not a Fool, maybe you would disagree with my opinion,such a right have you,BUT!!!! i do maintain that the STEELPAN  WAS  INVENTED BY THE BLACKMAN OF  T&T,,,6 for 9,,,,puss in bag,the tablet/capsule is too large to swallow,i,m giving Jack he Jacket,we do have a right to express ourselves  voice our opinion,but it does not mea that what,s untrue ought to be accepted and swallowed,with respect for all i do make my comments,no hard feeling,,,,Clean Talk Clean Living,,,,To The Point,,,my Respect to you and all concerned,,,,,,,The Truth,,,,,,God Bless.

I AM GOING STRAIGHT TO THE POINT,SIDD R U OUT OF YOUR MIND OR BEING PAID TO TALK THIS ////IT.WAS YOUR FATHER, GRANDFATHER,UNCLE ETC.BEATEN BY THE POLICE,JAILED,RIDICULED AND OSTRACIZED BY THE REST OF D POPULATION  BECAUSE OF THEIR INVOLVEMENT WITH PAN?THESE AFRO TRINIDADIAN MEN,STILL HAD THE SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE,INTELLIGENCE,WISDOM AND TESTICULAR FORTITUDE,TO INVENT THE GREATEST MUSICAL INVENTION OF THIS MODERN WORLD.

NOW THAT IT IS POLITICALLY CORRECT TO B ASSOCIATED WITH A STEEL BAND YOU DARE TO TALK THIS CRAP?GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT,YOU AND ALL WHO THINK LIKE YOU,BLESSINGS TO ALL THOSE GREAT AFRO TRINIS WHO SUFFERED AND STRUGGLED TO MAKE PAN WHAT IT IS TODAY,AND TO U 2 SIDD.

 

 

I don't know where Sidd has been, but he sounds like an alien, pan was created out of the struggle of African-Trinidadians who were always searching for media to express their music, after much suppression and opposition from the colonial powers. Sidd tell me, if some other race other than the ones who created the piano or the guitar manufactures these said instruments, are you saying that it would be lost on the original creators and they should not be given the kudos. I hope what you have posted and what you really meant are just mixed up. SIDD, PAN IS AFRICAN-TRINIDADIAN as the cuatro is Spanish-American. 

Sidd, there is a History Posted on this Website,,,,refering to George Sunny Goddard, deceased father of The Ghost Who Talks,,,,40 years of sacrifice relevant to the Steelband movement in T&T,,now i  can recollect quite clearly,,,you have made no comment relevant to this,,are you a true Trini,are you true in heart,the word for me to use to express the attitude of  certain Hindu,s /Indians response, a silent and vivid Negative reaction to the African Culture worldwide, i cannot find and or describe,my respect ,but you also do give me the said feeling of discriminating against the Steelpan,,,,facts, for had it been that you were upright ,from the inception of me posting a few valid and truthful questions , to you,,as a man of respect ,, you would have answered my question ,,the final analysis,,this would provide the answers of on which Limb you are really  Hanging,  yuh  know this is healthy dialogue, no vexation,,, or hatred just the TRUTH,,,,,,God Bless.

I'm sorry but I just had a "Scooby Doo" moment - "Whoa?" lmao! Is SIDD for real? This guy has been at me since I joined WST, and I am glad you all see through him. This is actually one of his saner posts; you don't want him to go all zen on y'all. lol. I really cannot stop laughing. This is some funny stuff. Honestly, I question his mental faculties, for his line of "thinking" is truly, well, ALIEN! Glenroy, thank you for you sane and enlightening response. Jerome, you know "you my boy" (I mean that in a nice way). Sarah-Ann he is not a "house slave", but an "indentured laborer" with Motherland issues. I really don't get it, him and his denial. Oswald, thanks for your factual response. This whole thing was targeted against my post, and, his plan backfired. He is so confused, that he thinks honoring Blacks as pan's inventors is racist. He totally fails to respond to ANY questions posed at him, and speaks in extra-terrestrial language, that only a few of his "phone home" friends can decipher. I am so glad you all spoke out, but don't expect him to understand. WE DON'T SPEAK ALIEN! lol.

Have a great evening, ALL. We have work to do, and, somehow, I believe it will get done, starting with us WST members. Let us give back pan to the people. (SIDD, I don't mean "Black" people, eh.) Now, I'm off to read the kids a bedtime story of how, one Carnival, God gift-wrapped a pan, and hand-delivered it to Black people, while declaring it a "raceless musical instrument". (Unlike the gifts he gave to Europe.) Really nice bedtime story; the kids love it. Has aliens and everything.

(BLACK) GHOST WHO HAD A REALLY GOOD LAUGH. Thank you, SIDD!  (You know you meh boy, though. Nothing but love for you, brother. And we do agree on one thing: Pan is universal! See how nice Black folks are; we willingly share EVERYTHING, including our "gift from God".)

Oi Zen master.............
By your reasoning god made Europeans enslave black people cart them across the Atlantic ocean, eradicate our culture/religion ban us from playing traditional musical instruments used for religious and cultural purposes so that we lose our identity in the process. And when they struggled to forge a new identity culturally by utilizing the oil drums left around from gods world war2. People were ostracized for being pan men socially and physically for thier need to forge a new identity.
And now that its socially acceptable to play or make pan you say its gods gift for us all to enjoy.
DO YOU SEE HOW RIDICULOUS THIS SOUNDS?

NOW LET'S MEDITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOOHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The historical truth is....there is always a line waiting to take credit for the inventions of Africans and their descendants.

SIDD IS A TROLL OF THE WORSE KIND

easy Sarrah-Ann, boy with tons of posts and so many facebook groups been out a touch with WST Sidd, Sidd, Sidd you been at it just stirring up tings, You are definetely the man people love to hate and you did a good promo on yourself , Sarrah ann he jus miserable da is all,see you guys took care of this one so I have no comment on this thread

 

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