NO TALK ABOUT MUSIC!!!

This forum frustrates me. What do STEELDRUMS and STEELBANDS do? They make music!!! Yet, this forum refuses to discuss PAN MUSIC outside of PANORAMA. Instead, we want to go back to the SIXTIES to PUSH PAN ON THE ROAD.

We have an INTERNATIONAL MARKET for PAN MUSIC yet nobody wants to exploit it. Instead, we are HELL BENT on stretching hands to the GOVERNMENT to subsidize and subsidize until dey gone broke and have to go to the IMF.

I don't get it!

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  • Just another thing i had to ask myself and the lovers of pan world wide

     

    1) People talk about pan man cannot market himself ( he is not a business person ) so big sponsors will bring pan forward

     

    2) People say no the pan man should learn marketing and promoting himself  this is the way forward

     

    3) a pan man no  not andy narell, not boogsie or who ever else name you want to call up , but a person who plays pan as a way of life like brushing your teeth in the morning.

     

    Tries to highlight the lack of support many people put financially into the pan mans pocket, but as usual a lot of  talk but no £££ spent with d panman.

     

    4) may be in years to come people will see what i was initiating, was simply pan lovers spend with panist it may be a small thing purchasing a CD ( "work of art by the  Panist creator) from an artist but it may help him to develop the art form  in ways that most defiantly needs fiance to grow.

    5) People can sit in their arm chairs and say you not marketing pan etc but if you not encouraging members to spend and do do business with the artist who are trying to spread pan as a music to be played all year round and not just in panorama what are you is your real position, cause what i have learned and sure you have also is   business   is about producing finance to make your dream/business to grow.

    6) Remember when you try and put down people who have been and still are continuing to use media out lets to develop their dreams and ambitions  and raise revenue as a panist  you may blight some young up coming star who reads your post and cannot figure out what is common senses.

    7) because the man who is feeding his family and who,s children never had to work for any body just play pan  for a living is told advise from people who for what ever reason chose not to make playing  PAN the most important object of life  the source that brings in the main income .

    8) the young have to also see financial  support from pan lovers charity starts at home this will encourage them to invest more time and work.

    9) to support a panist buying an album will not make any member poor, so as a way forward  for the panist support them financially when you can.

    10) I am sure you will all feel this is much more productive thank knocking Pantribago president  Keith Diaz, Trinidad government or any one else, for were pan is or should be.

  • I Just saw coments from ODW AND BUGS WITH REGARDS TO HOW I MARKET MY MUSIC.

    I ONLY HAVE TO LAUGH TO MYSELF AND SAY HIP HIP HOORAY THESE PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN ME ADVISE SO MAYBE NOW I MIGHT BE ABLE TO START MAKING A LIVING OFF PAN AFTER 35 YEAR PLAYING FULL TIME AND MAKING A GREAT LIVING FROM PAN THESE GUYS REALLY HAVE ADVISE DOWN TO A T

    ONE ASKED DO I HAVE A WEB SITE LOL MAY BE THIS PERSON CAN HELP ME SET ONE. ANY WAY ENOUGH OF ME HAVING A LAUGH GOT TO GET DOWN TO SOME SERIOUS WORK. BECAUSE AS THE DISCUSSION SAID NO MUSIC TALK HERE SO GUESS I AM IN THE WRONG PLACE BEST I STAY WERE THE MARKET IS GENERATING A DESCENT INCOME AND AS DR  BLACK STARLIN SAID IN HIS SONG KEEP THE SECRET UNDER LOCK AND KEY I THINK I SHALL CONSIDER DOING THAT

    HOPE NOBODY DON'T FEEL NO WAY BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN TO FOCUS ON THE BIGGER PICTURE WHEN REPLYING TO ANY OF MY POST IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I SAY CERTAIN THINGS YOU SHOULD TRY AND FIND OUT AND NOT  BE SO QUICK TO GIVE ADVISE,

  • I have to say in all the years being in this forum for lovers of pan I have sold one yes one Cd this speaks volumes of were pan reach and how it is supported by members of the largest internet site for pan lovers globally.
    Don't worry I am not complaining just highlighting another point for thought
    • May be it has more to do with your marketing strategy; the assumption that 15K plus members of this forum will or should buy your CDs is unrealistic.

      Much respect to you for your commitment and work in the industry, the awards are evidence of your dedication to promoting PAN. You being a professional musician, I'm sure you know how this business works. Is there a Link to to your website?

      • ODW 

        I totally agree with you. It's all about marketing. In this case WST has successfully brought a large number of people with a shared interest to one spot where everyone has equal access to them. The inability to sell a message or product to them is not a reflection on the people. It is rather a reflection on the production, business, marketing skills or budget to make a successful enterprise.

        bugs 

  • From Merrytones “Souvenirs In Steel” album.

    The Merriest Of Dancing Music by The Merritones Steel Orchestra

    The secret of Steel Band Music is in its new and tremendous contribution to dancing music. To dance to Steel Band Orchestra is to participate in a NEW experience in BOUNCE and exotic warmth.

    Ellie Mannette & Invaders - Wizards of the Steel Drum 2

    Tracks: 1.Softly Awakes My Heart, 2. I'll See You In My Dreams 3. Swan. 4. Beats There A Heart So True, 5. Ray Saga.

    Personnel: Ellie Mannette -- cellos; Emanuel "Cobo Jack" Riley, Clyde Boothman & Winston Phillip -- tenor pans;Ray Holman (doubling on tenor), Errol Zephyrine & Clayton Green -- double altos; Sidney Joseph, Ancil Joseph & Bailey Jaggernauth -- double guitars; Trevor Charles- bass; Oswald Best -- maracas; Irwin Ross- tumbas; Leno Rogers -- cymbals; Kenrick Smith -- bongos...

    • Try Phase Two Pan Groove's,ROCK IT WITH PAN ALBUM.BLESSINGS.
      • Found one track from the album...

  • Pan Music outside of Panorama is non-existent. Has always been. What's there to discuss? Where is this int'l market for pan music? If there is, then the Japanese and Andy Narell are the suppliers.
    Isn't it human nature to continue stretching hands out, if somebody keeps putting stuff in it? Personally, I think that the gov't should not subsidize the industry. How long should they keep propping up the thing?
    How many people are in "PAN" just for the love of it? Where does one find a panorama cd after carnival? Given all of that, it would not be a bad idea to push pan back into the sixties.........and leave it there.
    • patrick ramdoo,  push pan back onto the sixties and leave it there is the best suggestion I've ever heard in the forum. Those that was responsible for seeing that it remain relevant to the times went to sleep, now the only account they could give is "it dead"

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