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Semi Final Results are in - Shocker! No Exodus in Final!

Trinidad and Tobago steelband music panorama giant knocked out of finals.

No Exodus in finals!

Large Conventional Semi Final Results:
 
1. Phase II Pan Groove 277
2. Silver Stars 273
3. Skiffle Bunch 272
4. All Stars 266
5. Invaders 260
6. Desperadoes 260
7. Harmonites 260
8. Fonclaire 259
9. Redemption Sound Setters 258
10. Renegades 257
11. Tropical Angel Harps  256
12. Exodus 255
13. Starlift 254
14. Our Boys 242
15. Pamberi 242
16. Deltones 238
17. Birdsong 235
 
The Top 10 Bands have qualified for the Large Conventional Final Competition, 13th February, 2010!

Medium Conventional Semi Final Results:

1 Steel Xplosion 270
2 Valley Harps 269.5
3 Buccooneers 267
4 Sound Specialists of Laventille 266
5 Katzenjammers 263
5 Curepe Scherzando 263
7 Dixieland 260
8 Couva Joylanders 257
9 Sforzata 254
9 West Side Symphony 254
11 La Brea Nightingales 250.5
12 Tokyo 249
13 Pan Elders 248
14 Arima Angel Harps 247.5

The Top 10 Bands have qualified for the Medium Conventional Final Competition, 13th February, 2010!

Small Conventional Semi Final Results:

1 Laventille Serenaders 267
2 Merrytones 260
3 Crescendoes Musicale 255
4 Arima Golden Symphony 253
4 Golden Hands 253
6 Tamana Pioneers 250
7 Tornadoes 248
8 Panasonic Connection 241
9 Codrington Pan Family 239
9 Fascinators Pan Symphony 239
11 Flamingoes 232
12 Antillean All Stars 229
13 Longdenville Claytones 226
14 Tipica 225

The Top 10 Bands have qualified for the Small Conventional Final Competition, Small Conventional Bands and Single Pan Bands Finals will be staged at the South Quay Stands, Port of Spain, on Friday 12 February 2010.

Click for full results http://www.panonthenet.com/tnt/2010/results/2010summaryresults.htm

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I respectfully suggest that the reason that Renegades has gone out of favour with the Judges in recent years is that their style or "the Jit style" which ever you prefer, has become boring due to its sameness. You hear it one year and you hear the same every year. The same for Exodus. The style of these arrangers, good as it may be, is very one dimensional. Thats where Bradley, Holman and Boogsie differ. Their arrangements although recognisable encompass a wider dimension and thus more variation thus keeping your interest for a longer period of time.
I also believe that Pouchett falls in the same category as Pelham and Jit. They need to have excellent players and a fast tempo to facilitate the excessive number of notes required to make their arrangements interesting.
Whereas Bradley and Holman can take a band with less capable players, mediocre instruments and a more laid back style to accomadate the players and produce successful arrangements.
Witness Holman in 2006 what he did with Starlift - a band that was a failure for some years actually placing last in 2005 - His arrangement of his own composition "If You Really Want" placed Starlift third to Phase II and All Stars beating Renegades and Exodus with their fast tempo, brilliant players and instruments.
It may be that what Renegades and Exodus really need is a changes of style away from speed and frills to beautiful melodies, harmonies and chords.
An accomplished arranger does not need speed, numerous crescendos, runs and notes to create excitement and beauty
Just a thought.
I second that.....C.Kirk.....
Well-said. "Woman on the Bass" is a classic example of a superb arrangement, without excessive speed and runs.
Very good post. Not trying to knock any arranger or band, but I find it very difficult to listen to Renegades, All Stars and Silver Stars.
I understand what ur saying with the judges tired of it's style... But why aren't they tired of Smooth's style? Or Pouchet's style? Or Boogsie's style? Why when it comes to style, everyone knocks Jit? He is not the only one with a signature style. If that wasn't the case then many people wouldn't be able to tell when Boogsie arrange from when Smooth arrange from when Ken 'Professor' Philmore arrange. And you wouldn't have been able to categorize arrangers by their styles! Lol....

Thats why some people love Despers, and some people can't stand them. Some people love Starlift, and others think they should just go get lost. Bean Griffith have been using the same formula and losing Panorama's for years. People does refuse to play his songs... he has to go from panyard to panyard and beg them to pick it. And up to now he has not changed his style. The judges keep tellin him to change his style if he want success, yet he insists they just accept him because its HIS music.. But he is the first to pong Jit........ *rolls eyes*

In fact, Guppy has tried to get away from Jit's style this year. That was another reason we went with him. To see if Renegades would get different results under a different style. I've been playing with Renegades for years, and i listen to their music all the time. I know Jit's style to the back of my hand. When Guppy was putting down the music I for one wasn't comfortable. He went so far as to incorporate "a Boogsie finish" into the jam parts. It sounded weird to us, but we accepted it and trusted his judgement. LOL.... funny enough where he strays from Jit's style is where people claim to get lost! And this "new style" made us barely scrape into the finals!!!

My point is that each arranger have their own individual styles that is unique to them and their capability. Its like a child writing an essay. I'm not judging him based on the font he uses or how he structures his essay.... but the content of it and if it keeps my interest anyway. Yuh understand! .......... it all boils down to a matter of taste on the part of the listener, and creative capacity on the part of the arranger. When it comes to winning Panorama, its about who can pull something special out of their bag REGARDLESS of the style they use on Panorama night to blow the judges away! I love Renegades, but when i hear All Stars, or Exodus, or Phase II..... and i listen to arrangement; not style..... i does say, yes boy. They winning. Thats why my first post on this forum was Silver Stars FTW!

I personally think its silly to compare styles because they are different. Is like comparing chalk and cheese, and sayin cheese better then chalk because cheese more tasty. And chalk should switch to cheese because some people like cheese. What about the people that sometimes don't like cheese?
Exelent, my sentments exactly, very well expressed.
i understand what u talkin bout musically gifted...but this is d thing i play with Curepe Scherzando and is d same thing going on...ah set of political problems they worse dan d govt. evrybody want to b in charge..and in any organization there must be one leader and everyone must obey them but that is not the case.of course if people are not able to act their age and know when to separate politics from panorama and performance then the problems of the band will always be seen exposed through the music being played and the performance of the players.that is one of the reasons why Scherzando dropped from their 3rd place in Prelims to 5th in Semis because everybody want to be in charge and everything is an arguement and a meeting.those things kill a band and i am seeing that if bands continue like this panorama and the steelpan will eventually die in Trinbago.
YER RIGHT
MusicallyGifted, you've hit on some very good points there and I appreciate you speaking up about some of the problems the band is going through at the moment. Their performance of Battlezone was quite disappointing. I mean the first 2 1/2 minutes or so I really enjoyed; it was going really good especially at around the 2:00 mark. You could hear the intricate layering between the different sections, everyone playing together almost like the old days of the 80's and 90's - I loved it.......but then after about the 2:30 mark, I completely & totally lost interest right up until they started into the finale. To many strange disjointed runs that didn't make any sense. That whole section after 2:30 or so is hard to listen to. I can see why they placed 10th. I wouldn't have been surprised if they hadn't had made it to the Finals at all. I'm listening to it over and over trying to see if I missed anything but nope, a good two thirds of it just wasn't very good.
He better change it up big time before the Finals.
Why are there NO photos of SILVER STARS?
PROGRESS
We are also missing all of the conventional small bands, Skiffle Bunch, Silver Stars, Tropical Angel Harps, Redemption Soundsetters, Starlift and La Brea Nightingales in addition to Silver Stars. We are sorry about the bands that are missing. However, this photographer did monster work in a very very difficult situation. We have nothing but appreciation for the great work that he has done and continues to do.

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