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Panorama is the lifeblood of the organization, the indisputable factor or influence that gives the movement and its practitioners strength and vitality. The undeniable single factor that can authoritatively identify Trinidad and Tobago as The mecca of pan. I believe Panorama is necessary. If it is that there is consensus in the pan fraternity that the current administrators have consistently displayed their inability to responsibly and astutely manage that show and the returns it generates, what contingency plans have been developed over the past few months that can demonstrate a capacity to successfully supersede what exists?

Succession planning seems to be nonexistent in the wider steel band community, and should be prioritized in a structured manner to ensure smooth transitions in management at band level and at a national level. Critical thinking seems to be lacking, and analytic skills deficient, honesty in an oxymoron, and the ability to see past the next handout may be stifling band leaders, or those who consider themselves band owners, or delegated representatives the desire to progressively develop the human capital within their organizations. Succession planning seems to be forbidden and prohibited in organizations, where potential is ambushed, where any evidence of the capacity and ability to lead, instead of being nurtured is summarily executed. 

The evidence suggests that there is no shadow executive.

The evidence suggests that a steering committee has not been considered or in place.

Therefore it is not unreasonable to conclude that there are just two choices available, panorama with an executive that is being projected as undesirable, or no panorama.

What I would choose to describe as the sterility of some views, and the challenges associated with intelligently interpreting objectivity is regrettable, even mildly discouraging, and it would not be inconsiderate to compare that behavior with that of the host responsible for spreading the virus resulting in the stagnation affecting the local steel band movement, fueling its dormancy. Stagnation of views in an effort to take meaningful discussion forward. Stagnation of thought inhibiting meaningful dialogue leading to action on rational suggestions put forward. Stagnation of ideas resulting in the inability to propose intelligent, solution based responses to issues identified.

I did not come on this forum to be popular,  I did not come on this forum to win friends or influence people, as my name is not Dale Carnegie, I did not come forward to seek anyone's blessings or approval.  I am not running for, or do I have any desire or intention for office at any level, or on any platform, on any slate, or independently at any given time. I am not a supporter or detractor of anyone's, or any group's agenda. I have no agenda hidden or public, I do not intend, or desire to usurp anyone's authority, I speak openly, and the views I express are independently hatched in my simple mind.

I intend to address the mafia that is the delegate system next.

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“Succession planning seems to be nonexistent in the wider steel band community, and should be prioritized in a structured manner to ensure smooth transitions in management at band level and at a national level. Critical thinking seems to be lacking, and analytic skills deficient, honesty in an oxymoron, and the ability to see past the next handout may be stifling band leaders, or those who consider themselves band owners, or delegated representatives the desire to progressively develop the human capital within their organizations. Succession planning seems to be forbidden and prohibited in organizations, where potential is ambushed, where any evidence of the capacity and ability to lead, instead of being nurtured is summarily executed.”

Pan Trinbago is a CULTURAL organization, pretending to be a business operation. In order to solve a problem you have to get to the bottom of it. No one paid attention to Lloyd Best when he provided a guide on how to structure the PanYard as a business entity, Thanks to Teddy Belgrave and other visionaries for moving the steelband movement forward. Getting a bar license for yuh PanYard is not going to help Panyards in the NEW economy. 

Today you can obtain online training courses for various subjects via an internet connection. Critical thinking, analytical thinking can be found on YouTube.  Any motivated pan man or woman self-disciplined and goal-directed can start there.  

Thank you Russell from the video I see you were deeply embedded in the movement, continue your contributions. We all can learn from each other. We never to OLD to LEARN, that's if we are willing to accept we know what we don't know.

 

Very good conversation from Russel and ODW plus excellent video ....We need clear thinking people like Teddy (may he rest in peace). I do believe that we have capable people in Trinidad who can demonstrate the clear thinking skills. I do hope that they will step forward at this time. That type of change with clean leadership is so needed. Step up to the plate guys.

Wow, the wild exchanges of the past few days, the insults, subtle and otherwise, intellectual capacity on display and all I see is "iron bolts", "sling shot", "cutlass" and razors fuh so. Back to de fifties. We eh gorn no way.

Shut down the Panorama for ONE year, enuff time to gather serious thought and reflection.

Succession planning? What is dat? Seemingly nonexistent in T&T, not just in the steel band community. Check ALL governments as they come and go. Is a Trini ting.

So now we are tasked with still getting away from the bolts, sling shot, 3 canal, razors and ting. We eh gorn no way.

WAKE UP EVERYBODY - Original Version (Teddy Pendergrass, Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes)

Steelbands were never encouraged to contribute the development of the Movement, hence the reason for their exploitation. The seasonal aspect of things affected their ability to organize, Positive change will only come about when steelbands organize themselves then with each other.

So RUSSELL PROVIDENCE is RUSSELL PROVIDENCE -- a FORMER LEADER from the TRINIDAD STEELBAND WORLD.

He is NOT A PAN TRINBAGO SPY!!! He is NOT MICHAEL "BROTHER SCOBIE" JOSEPH!!! He is an INDEPENDENT VOICE crying out for the betterment of PAN.

He is also NOT A FAN of the CIP because he sees them as VISIONLESS, LEADERLESS, PLANLESS, and on the verge of internal war if they ever take over PAN TRINBAGO in their unprepared state.

He does not seem to be involved in PAN directly as he used to be, but he THINKS PAN NIGHT AND  DAY and the stagnancy of the LOCAL MOVEMENT frustrates him TO NO END.

And he made the CIP paranoid and almost cost me my friendship with some of the CIP members because they thought that I mindlessly and sheepishly jumped on the RUSSELL PROVIDENCE bandwagon immediately upon his arrival (re-arrival?) on the scene. In a way, I am a little upset with ODW for outing RUSSELL PROVIDENCE because I was enjoying watching the CIP try to DECIPHER.

So everybody should apologize to THE MAN and encourage him to keep EXPRESSING HIS VIEWS.

Thank you for the kind comments which i sincerely believe I do not deserve. I never knew that video existed. That video was produced by Timmy Mora with whom I still share an excellent relationship. I have moved on, as my efforts and vision and direction fueled by the enthusiasm of youth was ambushed and hijacked with unfounded and unsubstantiated allegations of impropriety by elements and their associates within the organization that were desirous of owning something they wanted no part of initially, but it was President John F Kennedy who popularized the saying, "Victory has a hundred fathers and defeat is an orphan (La victoria trova cento padri, a nessuno vuole riconoscere l'insuccesso) which originated with Italian diplomat and son-in-law of Mussolini, Count Galeazzo Ciano. I honestly have absolutely no desire or intention of reemerging in any capacity in the steel band world. The cut throat culture is alive and well among the majority who seem to seek only their own interest and the spotlight. Those organizations that have aggressively and successfully pursued and embarked on a path of self sufficiency, I respect, admire and applaud your efforts. I shall always enjoy the camaraderie and rivalry that is panorama, and good pan music from whoever produces it. I may be now forced to disclose that I have independently and singlehandedly introduced the pan, the only percussion instrument to be created/invented in the twentieth century as a creation of citizens of Trinidad and Tobago to numerous organizations and influential individuals in Africa, Asia, The Middle and Europe without any fanfare, public acknowledgement or tangible returns. Nowadays I have embarked on another journey with succession planning, sustainability and self-sufficiency as my primary objectives and goals. I see this forum as a necessary vehicle for education and enlightenment, for taking the movement forward and upward, but unfortunately, I suspect that it may also be prostituted for the pleasure of many whose role and responsibility are current relative to the direction in which the steel band movement must be taken. Based on some of the references by principals of the CIP on this forum, more and more I see the CIP as a recycling facility where a waste base product, plastic soft drink bottles for example, is being used to create an unsustainable useable one, let's say plastic ceiling for houses, which will eventually and inadvertently outlive its usefulness and end up just where it stated off and an undesirable environmental contaminant in our landfills, waterways and the ocean. If time permits, I may very well from time to time attempt to contribute critically and intelligently on this forum without any desire for active involvement or participation. I shall remain resolutely independent in my thought and actions, and remain a voice crying in the wilderness, enjoying the entertainment provided by the circus, its performers and ringleaders.

I can be found doing this in my spare time.

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Professor Philmore has some wise words in this video. I think I saw that the VIDEO was done in 1993 (I am sure that I Iooked at it a while back) and if THE PROFESSOR had understood the possibilities in his own words they could have been applied to him -- the  STARS could have been his. Although the opportunity still exists for him -- he just needs someone to shine the light on the path forward.

I require no apology from anyone, big men express opinions based on their ability to read and comprehend, the fertility of their minds, their powers of reasoning, their susceptibility to be easily influenced by the views of others without the capacity to rationalize their consequential actions. The documented evidence relative to responses to comments I would have made on this forum is damning evidence of the lack of vision, purpose, direction and bankruptcy of some persons who choose to identify with the CIP, which they see as the vehicle to promote them and their selfish corrupt agendas ( if given the opportunity many CIP puppets will readily, and without thought or hesitation promote Diaz's agenda for the proverbial thirty pieces of silver), a direct result of their inability to independently create, design and establish goals and objectives. some whom I would be inclined to describe as followers in blinkers, not running the proverbial course to win or to place, but running their mouths helter skelter, as they are literally whipped into action by experienced jockeys riding their backs. The Book of Proverbs, chapter 23, verse 7 tells us: "As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he". this epitomizes behavioral patterns displayed in some comments on this forum, which tells me that some are only being used as the mouthpieces of others, so anything beyond their comprehension they interpret as a message being relayed by a messenger from his superior or mentor. Regrettable.

Wisdom for the ages,..Thank you for the lessons imparted for the journey ahead....Russell & ODW

Here’s the deal.  It is cool that the person who posts the most on this forum can vouch for you and/or legitimize your post.  But if you truly see this forum as “ a

necessary vehicle for education and enlightment,” you would provide hard evidence for your conclusions.  Lawyers, for example, do not go to court and say the evidence suggests ….  Instead, after briefing the judge on what law or case is applicable to their client’s circumstance, they might say, for example if applicable, that the facts show that the search does not fall within the exception to warrantless searches under the 4th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution because of People v. Smith.  Similarly, social and other scientists provide the methodology under which they conduct their study, so that any other scientist can replicate the specific  study and concur with or refute it.  So if you truly want to educate or allow members on the list to “intelligently interpret … objectivity” [whatever that is], please provide some bar graphs or pie charts with your data and the methodology you used to arrive at your conclusions that “critical thinking seems to be lacking, and analytical skills deficient” [outside of stringing together a bunch of big sounding words, the analysis is bereft of metrics].  Then, members of the list would know whether your divisive comments about the “sterility of some views” are factual or biased.  There are three takeaways for my response: 1) Note I have no member of the list to come to my aid, 2) that’s not an issue because although the website purports to have a membership of 16000+, metrics for September 2017 show that there were 468 discussions with an average response of 5 people per discussion, including people responding to their own posts, and 3) last but most important, no educator or anyone who wants to “educate and enlighten” would think and write that those who disagree with him have sterile views.

 

Let’s see the metrics and methodology in your “mafia” post and advance this forum forward simultaneously.  Thank you.

Dear Mr Tony Smith,

Here’s the deal.  (and here is my deal emboldened and underlined)

1. It is cool that the person who posts the most on this forum can vouch for you and/or legitimize your post. (If you clearly understood my comments, it sould be clear to you that I do not need anyone to vouch for me, or do I solicit agreement from anyone)

2. But if you truly see this forum as “ a necessary vehicle for education and enlightment,” you would provide hard evidence for your conclusions.  (It would be interesting to see what your perspective, interpretation or definition of education and enlightenment is, as mine is not limited to a degree from an institution of learning, as you can send a jackass to university, but it does not come back as an educated jackass, but a jackass with a degree. What conclusions  do you make reference to?)

3. Lawyers, for example, do not go to court and say the evidence suggests ….  Instead, after briefing the judge on what law or case is applicable to their client’s circumstance, they might say, for example if applicable, (Courts of law do not adjudicate or arrive at decisions based on what is true or factual as much as they adjucitate on the strength and relevance of legal arguments presented within the ambit of the governing laws relative to the matter being adjudicated and the relevance to the jurisdiction. Any 2X4 attorney worth their salt knows that )

4. that the facts show that the search does not fall within the exception to warrantless searches under the 4thAmendment of the U.S. Constitution because of People v. Smith. (legal references do not enjoy the privilege of being universal, they are governed by the boundaries of the jurisdiction within which they are presented another fact any 2X4 attorney worth their salt knows

5. Similarly, social and other scientists provide the methodology under which they conduct their study, so that any other scientist can replicate the specific  study and concur with or refute it. (this statement is expressly inconsistent with the trend, and I see it as a covert attempt to acquire for gratis what you would be required to pay for especially in the jurisdiction I strongly suspect you are embedded )

6. So if you truly want to educate or allow members on the list to “intelligently interpret … objectivity” [whatever that is], (The foregoing phrase speaks volumes of your ability or rather inability)

7.  please provide some bar graphs or pie charts with your data and the methodology you used to arrive at your conclusions that “critical thinking seems to be lacking, and analytical skills deficient” [outside of stringing together a bunch of big sounding words, the analysis is bereft of metrics]. (another attempt to siphon information you may not possess the capacity to compile yourself. If you have a problem with my vocabulary that is your problem. I have no issue with yours)

8. Then, members of the list would know whether your divisive comments about the “sterility of some views” are factual or biased. (it is unfortunate that you seem not to posses the capacity and obvious objectivity to identify divisive responses to my comments that were not based on facts, but empty unfounded assumptions)

There are three takeaways for my response: 1) Note I have no member of the list to come to my aid, 2) that’s not an issue because although the website purports to have a membership of 16000+, metrics for September 2017 show that there were 468 discussions with an average response of 5 people per discussion, including people responding to their own posts, and 3) last but most important, no educator or anyone who wants to “educate and enlighten” would think and write that those who disagree with him have sterile views. (Evidence of the sterility (a word that seems to upsets you or rather unnerve you), of your forum. your interpretation of disagreement is subjective, as any passive observer given to objectivity would detect that responses to my comments were based on unfounded opinions and assumptions)

 

Let’s see the metrics and methodology in your “mafia” post and advance this forum forward simultaneously.  Thank you. (That you may never see, as it is obvious that I have overstayed my time on your forum, and open invitations may only be extended to whatever turns you on) 

If you so desire to remove me from this forum that is your right.

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