Clarification sought on Trinidad's 50the anniversary of Panorama.
(1) If the first year of Panorama was 1963, the 10th year would be 1972, 20th would be 1982, 30th would be 1992, 40th would 2002, 50th would be 2012. Reference was made in the following articles and advertised as such last year.
http://m.guardian.co.tt/editorial/2012-08-31/50-years-steel
and
http://www.guardian.co.tt/carnival/2012-02-18/happy-50th-birthday-panorama
(2) With no competition in 1979, 2013 will be technically the 50th competition but the anniversary is still 51 years since the first Panorama. Another article refers to 2013 as the 50th anniversary
http://ttnewsflash.com/?p=15902 and
http://www.guardian.co.tt/letters/2012-12-19/money-panorama’s-50th
Clarification welcome given both 2012 and 2013 being referred to as the 50th anniversary in the public domain.
With respect to anniversary measured in years since the frst Panorama, shouldn't this be clear, ie the 50th anniversary has passed in 2012, or is the 50th competition in 2013 more important from a historical persective in the pan world ?
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Note that the fiftieth Panorama Competition is not the same as the fiftieth Anniversary of Panorama, since the first Panorama was '63, but the first Anniversary of Panorama would have been one year later,in 1964.
In the year 2012 We will celebrate the fiftieth occasion of Panorama.
By my counting the fiftieth anniversary of panorama will be next year.
This reminds me of the confusion in approaching the year 2000...whether it was the start of the 21st century or if it were 2001. Wow!!!! If something starts today -- January 9th -- the very next January 9th makes it its FIRST anniversary, FIRST birthday, FIRST death day; and so on and so on. Education is the key!
So special is Pan, that it actually has a two-year, 50th Anniversary. Long live pan...Pulsating! Amazing! Noble! Let's ALL celebrate this 2013 TnT Panorama with pride and joy.
The first anniversary of anything is the year after it first happened. This makes 2013, the 50th anniversary of anything that started in 1963 including one's life. Our Independence celebration last year was our 51st, the first one being in 1962; but it was the 50th anniversary of our first Independence. This is the 51st Panorama because the 1979 event was aborted after the preliminaries, but it is the 50th anniversary of Panorama
I just saw Ian Franklin comment and I agree I have been telling people that our 50th Independence anniversary should have started on the 1st Sept 2011. that's
when our 50th year began. What we celebrated in 2012 was the END of our 50th year.you would be surprised to know that many could not grasp this. NUFF SAID
Inmy earlier comment I included 1979 as a panorama even though there was none
BEDE LOPEZ > Brian BallantyneJanuary 8, 2013 at 9:25pm
1979 NO PANORAMA, therefore this year 2013 would be 50th time that we have a panorama competition. If we had one in 1979 then this year 2013 would be the 51st time that we have a panorama (so you all can call it what ever, but that's it)
This is always a problem with anniversaries. we have to be clear. The 1st Panorama was in 1963 the second was in 1964. Gentlemen we have 2 Panoramas but the time span between them is ONE year. Compare this with a new born baby. When a child is born it is not one year old, 12 months have to pass before that child is one year old. 2013 will see 50 YEARS SPAN of Panorama but it will be the FIRTY-FIRST Panorama. So lets decide what we are going to celebrate 50 years of 51st event. NUFF SAID
I see your point. I told someone in Trinidad last August 31st, "today is our 51st Independence Parade."
Of course, the someone wanted to argue the point, so I had to teach that someone about "ordinal" numbers.
In my new publication entitled, "49 years of Panorama Finals 1963 to 2012." I noted that 2012 should have been our 50th Panorama Finals, but due to the 1979 cancellation, 2013 will now be the 50th Finals, as long as we do not have a repeat of 1979.
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Note that the fiftieth Panorama Competition is not the same as the fiftieth Anniversary of Panorama, since the first Panorama was '63, but the first Anniversary of Panorama would have been one year later,in 1964.
In the year 2012 We will celebrate the fiftieth occasion of Panorama.
By my counting the fiftieth anniversary of panorama will be next year.
This reminds me of the confusion in approaching the year 2000...whether it was the start of the 21st century or if it were 2001. Wow!!!! If something starts today -- January 9th -- the very next January 9th makes it its FIRST anniversary, FIRST birthday, FIRST death day; and so on and so on. Education is the key!
So special is Pan, that it actually has a two-year, 50th Anniversary. Long live pan...Pulsating! Amazing! Noble! Let's ALL celebrate this 2013 TnT Panorama with pride and joy.
The first anniversary of anything is the year after it first happened. This makes 2013, the 50th anniversary of anything that started in 1963 including one's life. Our Independence celebration last year was our 51st, the first one being in 1962; but it was the 50th anniversary of our first Independence. This is the 51st Panorama because the 1979 event was aborted after the preliminaries, but it is the 50th anniversary of Panorama
Agreed Ian. Gentlemen and Lady, there is only ONE 50th of anything, let us all enjoy it whenever it comes and leave the BACCANAL out of it PLEASE. lol
I just saw Ian Franklin comment and I agree I have been telling people that our 50th Independence anniversary should have started on the 1st Sept 2011. that's
when our 50th year began. What we celebrated in 2012 was the END of our 50th year.you would be surprised to know that many could not grasp this. NUFF SAID
Inmy earlier comment I included 1979 as a panorama even though there was none
1979 NO PANORAMA, therefore this year 2013 would be 50th time that we have a panorama competition. If we had one in 1979 then this year 2013 would be the 51st time that we have a panorama (so you all can call it what ever, but that's it)
This is always a problem with anniversaries. we have to be clear. The 1st Panorama was in 1963 the second was in 1964. Gentlemen we have 2 Panoramas but the time span between them is ONE year. Compare this with a new born baby. When a child is born it is not one year old, 12 months have to pass before that child is one year old. 2013 will see 50 YEARS SPAN of Panorama but it will be the FIRTY-FIRST Panorama. So lets decide what we are going to celebrate 50 years of 51st event. NUFF SAID
Thanks Mark,
I see your point. I told someone in Trinidad last August 31st, "today is our 51st Independence Parade."
Of course, the someone wanted to argue the point, so I had to teach that someone about "ordinal" numbers.
In my new publication entitled, "49 years of Panorama Finals 1963 to 2012." I noted that 2012 should have been our 50th Panorama Finals, but due to the 1979 cancellation, 2013 will now be the 50th Finals, as long as we do not have a repeat of 1979.
Love, Peace and Pan