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Here is a a more all rounded truth of the involvement of class, color and race of a people who invented the pan.  It is true that the Afro Trinidadian were first given the gift of pan, as a replacement for their natural instruments-the African drums. In getting that gift, it also contained the involvement of the rest of the class, color and race of the people of Trinidad and Tobago. The pan therefore cannot be considered to be an African type instrument or an East Indian type instrument or only relegated to be made by the Afro Trinidadian. It is is much wider than any particular class, color or race of people. It is therefore a classless, colorless and raceless musical instrument first absolutely discoverved by the African descent Trinidadian undoubtedly. This discovery however is a slap in the face of all peoples off this world. When one honestly and unbiasly studies all of the historical, social, economic and spiritual facts for the invention of this universal instrument, one see that it cannot really be classified in terms of class, color and race. it has won over all those material designations and now sits freely for anyone regardless of class, color or race to play. Some musical instruments cannot be disassociated with race.  They may never be able to be classified as a universal music instrument. The pan beats all cockfight both human and otherwise and sits in a true world both old and new musical instrument. It's therefore in my opinion a gross insult simply to say it began from the African Trinidadian poor boys, who themselves encouraged all others to come in and help make it, shape it, tune it, play it, sell it and today anyone can manufacture the conventional pan and become multi millionaires. Today, if the Afro Trinidadians are not selling it internationally, then simply saying that the Afro Trinidadians first created it has no real value in this world. That value can only be continued only if the Afro Trinidadian works this truth to their own benefit. Otherwise no one will retain rememberance of this truth of the Afro Trinidadian.  History can only be retained if there is continued invention, intervention, innovation by the Afro Trinidadian. If this stops, then the history could stop.  History then can turn into sentimental value rather than absolute value. Which one is more valuable, sentimental history or absolute or permanent history? Review the following.

http://www.panonthenet.com/history/aho/

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I have to disagree with you, Sid.

The pan wasn't just "given" to Afro Trinidadians. It was created by them.

History shows that there was a natural progression from the African drums (which were banned) to the tamboo bamboo to beating on steel objects to the development of the pan.

This was done primarily by urban Trinidad youth of African decent.

I try to be as fair as possible when dealing with matters of race. and I acknowledge that there have been substantial contributions made by non African Trinis, particularly Indians, to the development of the steel pan movement as we know it today..

But many to this day have refused to accept the pan, and there was substantial opposition, primarily by Indian leaders to the pan being declared the national instrument of Trinidad.

Many of these Indian leaders themselves see the pan as an "African" thing.

As one of their leaders Sat Maharaj said,"Africans like to beat pan, Indians like to beat book", and I'm not aware of any other Indian leaders challenging this and embracing the pan as their own.

Sat Maharaj also made it clear that he and others were opposed to the pan being taught in "their" schools.

We can't have it both ways.

I challenge our Indian friends to dispute this if I am wrong.

The Silent Lamb,,,Mr G Joseph  you were just playing stupid,,,from day one of me joing this website i,ve noticed the seperation,,vivid and clear as Daylight,,,facts and not fiction,, THE  TRUTH,,,,God bless. 

I was playing stupid, Mr Clarke? I don't quite understand.......

Mr G Jozeph, what i really meant  is that you have remained quite silent for a very long time when there were many indifferences heated discussions,pertaining to the  attitude,disinterest,negative responses,towards the Steelpan  etc,you sat and laid back,my presumption is that you were awaiting the opportune moment to react,mind you i meant good and not anything bad, my respect God Bless.

Sidd you remind me of people who look at the faces of the Sphinx of Egypt and refuse to acknowledge what they are seeing. Do you not know what Ellie Mannette looks like? Do you not know what Neville Jules looks like? Do you not know what Anthony Williams looks like? Do you not know what Bertie Marshall looks like? Why is it so difficult for you to simply say the black people of Trinidad invented pan. And through their intelligence they developed this magnificent family of instruments. Story done!

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Sid sounds like one of those house slaves. He reeks of all that is hypocritical and i have gone away with the feeling that for him to be involved in the Pan that stigma of it being of Black African roots must be removed bah well to tell him the truth which no one ever cites some of those fellas even beat out some of those notes in "Dem Boys Jail" wherever it was in those days.  Thanks to them we have an international instrument played  in the Queens Palace and what ever its roots however hard the price that was paid to invent and all the licks and blows that was shared out by the police. Thanks To those People For Our National Instrument. The only other entity that took blows and persecution in this land was the Baptiste faith and today the faith and the instrument have survived better than Sidd whoever he might be.Steups

Sidd go say the same about the Violin let me see you discuss the inventor of that great instrument in the disrespectfull way that you have just done with the inventors of Pan. Or is that not the same? ent

Amen Praise the Lord.

Sidd I have serious concerns about anyone who consciously and systematically deny the contributions of a people. It is the first step in denying the humanity of those people. Quite frankly I think you are dangerous. Why do you fear black people?

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Sidd I never asked you what race you were.  Again I ask you - why do you fear black people?

bugs

I didn't ask you who you work with or who you take money from. Again,  I asked you why do you fear black people? It is incredible that you would use that old missionary scam in 2012.

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You lack any information at all, but what you are dfoing is trying to find out information. So I was related to a man called  Winston "Spree" Simon but that does not mean that I have any special information or make me unique. Name dropping  will serve us no purpose if we shoot ourselves in the foot with nonesense

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