Anyone know the reason why?
Trinidad All Stars was formed on Charlotte Street, Port-of-Spain, in 1935 as "Bad Behavior" with a group of panmen that included "Big Head" Hamill and Rudolph "Fish Eye" Olliviere, the band's first leader. In the early-1940s, the name of the band was changed three times, first to "The Hell Yard Boys," then "Second Fiddle," after the 1939 American movie of the same name starring Tyrone Power; and finally "Cross of Lorraine," after the 1943 American movie "The Cross of Lorraine," starring Gene Kelly.
Thank you for this interesting history research.
I had always thought that the "Gay Desperadoes" steelband was named after the movie, from the 1930's, of the same name.
I have absolutely no data to back that up other than the name. The movie you credit does fit the time period better.
Do any old Despers members have any written or oral history, or perhaps that is what you already used.
DO ANYONE KNOWS WHY THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME FROM gAY dASPERADOES BACK TO dESPERADOES/
Here's some back story, it may not answer your question...
There is a story of Rudolph Charles, the leader of Desperadoes, formerly The Gay Desperadoes (they dropped the "Gay'' after returning from an overseas tour), walked into a panyard started by some dissenters from his band, who decided to set up shop a few blocks away. He smashed their pans, declaring that "the hill has room for only one steelband and that is Despers." There was no dissent after that. It is ironic that there is now no room on the hill for Despers themselves any more, due to the criminal element that has been allowed and encouraged to flourish.
For more info check out...http://www.panonthenet.com/news/2015/mar/rudolph-charles-the-baddes...
Thirty years after death, Rudolph Charles remains...
The Baddest Desperado
by Dalton Narine
Let the Music Play
Desperadoes Vol 2 Different Me
Straight Outta Laventille
A collection of eleven tracks by pan-music artists, the Desperadoes Steel Orchestra, includes Stevie Wonder's "Overjoyed", Joseph Kosma's "Autumn Leaves" and more.
Laventille is the epicenter of the Steelpan, indigenous national musical instrument of Trinidad & Tobago. From foot to summit, its sound emanates and resonates throughout the land.
Desperadoes came into being in the early 1940s, and over the years through its various states and sponsors, brought tremendous pride to the Hill and music to the world. There was a time when it was commonplace for folks to trek that Hill on two occasions annually: first to indulge in Despers' Carnival music by night, the other being afternoon Lenten celebrations at the R.C. Church.
There was peace known to the hundreds who long-stepped their way up to the panyard, knelt from time to time along the pavements as they made their Way of the Cross or would simply stop, buy and eat along the way.
The essence of this story is about the other R.C. - Rudolph Charles - who instilled standards of discipline, hard work and fraternity that came to define the band's strength. During this journey, in 1965, began the steadfast support of the West Indian Tobacco Company - WITCO, a Phenom that would have continued until today, breached only by law.
Today, there is a determined resolve to initiate a resurgence of Laventille, to restore its pride and performance. The work starts immediately and is spearheaded by the return of Despers to the top of the Hill and sharing its vast repertoire with the world community.
The journey takes place in two broad phases, the first beginning with a return of all Despers' ensembles to their original home, giving up the recent itinerant life. Going back up the Hill prompts the return to great heights, literally and figuratively.
Building on the first step and the momentum that it is hoped, will be created, is the magnum opus - creation of a community youth organization that takes hold of the primary schoolers and guide them through to adulthood.
This what the elders have told us.
Bypassing the names for steelbands; what a wonderful collection of vintage posters for these movies.
We should add: Hills Sixteen,Leningrad, Red Army, Bad Twenty,Tropical Harmony
Thank you for the information.
Do you know what specific movies are associated with these bands?
They are not movies but taken during the war years e,g The Japanese Army were known as the Red Army therefore the names was associated with war. Another name Lenningrade was associated with Russia.