Let the talk begin...

[Cecil hinkson]

Panorama sucks all the energy outta every steelband/pan talk, and it's eight minutes of music once a year. It's about time to change the narrative..

[Bugs]

Happy Year folks...

[Claude Gonzales]

MERRYTONES: Your argument remains the same ... but things have GOTTEN worse than you have expected .... you are not alone.

[merrytonestothebone]

Hi all...long time no visit this page..."tis that time of year indeed...I posted the following on Face Book a few days ago...It has generated quite a lot of discussion thus far...sharing it here ...

According to the "Amended Rules and Regulations for Panorama 2023"...Rule 4. Registration...Subsection 4.4: Entitlement of Registration...

4.4.2: There are NO RESTRICTIONS on the number of bands players can perform with during the competition....

I ask this question: Is Panorama still a COMPETITION? Or simply an opportunity for panists to "make a lil change" (to which I have no argument). Where is the COMPETITION if one is allowed perform with literally ALL the performing bands?

When I last checked PEOPLE play pan. So if in "performing" you are indeed "competing" how can you be allowed to compete against yourself? And moreso, have a RULE to support it?

I highlighted this issue yesterday at Pan Trinbago's Facebook page and it was promptly removed. I wonder why?

[Peter deLight]

MTTTB:

Sorry to hear that your contribution on PTFB page was removed.  That’s both baffling and incomprehensible; but, then again … logic and reason may be disturbing and unacceptable to some, especially those in sinecure positions.  ;-)

Happy new year!

Honest question:

Are there currently any stated restrictions that preclude an individual from arranging for more than one band in the same band category at Panorama (competition), in the same calendar year? 

If there are, I hazard to ponder that similar amendatory addenda to the present rules & regulations may be forthcoming.  

 

 Imagine one arranger coming 1st, 2nd, & 3rd in the same Panorama.  Tee hee.

 

It is indeed that time of the year.

[merrytonestothebone]

This is my most recent response to the same thread:

The true essence of competition is "not" to rival yourself. The most important factor to consider is the placings at the end any competition. A competition with 12 finalists for example could only allow multiple or joint placings in the case of a tie. Given the present rule change a player can legally place 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th...you name it...And don't tell me that it's the band that secures the final position and not the player, because without the player there would be no band.

The thing is too, while we want to make good money for playing with literally ALL Panorama entrants we still can only have one winner...Clearly the competition organizers couldn't care less about this since they all have horses in the race...

Try as you may to make sense of the new rule it remains an improbable situation...But say wha?...We like it so...I grew up with a different understanding of "fair play" and as "Ole Blue Eyes" sang..."You can't take that away from me"..

[Peter deLight]

LOL.  Love it!

Sticking with the Man, ‘Ol Blue eyes’ — “… first there’s laughter, then those tears.”

[earl richards]

Yes Peter delight there are restrictions in place that preclude an arranger from arranging for more than one band in the same category at T&T Panorama in the same calender year . What immediately comes to mind is Panorama 1980 Boogsie Sharpe arrange for Phase 11 Pan Grove and Jewell 22 in the large band category. Phase 11 did not advance to the Finals but Jewell 22 advance to the Finals placing 4th with a boss arrangement of Wanted Dead or Alive arrange by Boogsie and sung by Mighty Sparrow.

[Peter deLight]

I thank you for your confirmation, Earl Richards.

 

The (rhetorical) question posed was an endorsement of MTTB's long-standing position (as I understand it) regarding a pannist performing with more than one band at Panorama (competition) in the same band category in the same calendar year.

 

What if the same reason or logic that was used to amend the rules and regulations for pannists were applied for arrangers, and consequently, remove all restrictions (regarding their affiliations)?

Why not?  

Surely, it could be argued that (most) arrangers are still/were (at one time) pannists .

 

I take umbrage that MTTB's posting on PTFB page was removed (without explanation!?!).

 

Looks like: 

New year.  Same squabble harassing individuals today.   :-)

[Bugs]

I wonder why they removed your post?

[Claude Gonzales]

DICTATORSHIP!!!