Most of us Older Folks Always Complain about Pan Progress or Lack Thereof. What is the Vision going Forward for Wanting to Bring Back PAN With MAS on the Roads on Carnival Days? And in the Same Breath Dogging Panorama. Is it really Progress? Or do We want to Satisfy Our Desires and Memories We once Enjoyed. The Young People of Today Definitely Wont Support It. It will die Very Quickly.
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Mr. Fritz, pan with mas on de road may not return to TNT, but in the meantime pan on de road (carnival or not) is happening in other parts of the world. Because pan has been associated with carnival, we cyah geh dat out of we mentality. If you should open yuh mind and see pan on de road to mean pan being accepted as a major instrument, and the road to mean a method of transition and placement for pan in the musical arena, then all de dotish people must be the ones who know the value of "we" instrument.
Ms. Inez: Yuh gone to the metaphor and yuh sharing licks. But we have to go BEYOND "pan being accepted as a major instrument" and MAKE MUSIC with the PAN for the GLOBAL MARKET. We are VERY WEAK in that MUSICAL ARENA.
Nice post Inez John. not everyone know PAN born on the road. The steelband contributed to what carnival is today, some of us feel that it should share in the win fall it brings.
Pan on the Road, Panorama, the discussion going on for ages. It's not that simple.
Pan can go on the road if they want. There really is no one stopping them. Many pan bands bring out mas at carnival and people play with them. Others choose not to. It's their own choice.
I'm not sure what is meant by bring back pan on the road.
Even the pan bands supplement the music with music trucks, That's what their patrons want. If they wanted pan, they would have pan. They want jamming.
some pan sides are already experimenting with heavy amplification to compete with the DJs but it's not necessarily about loudness.
On the road they want to hear the calypsos or Soca that they heard on the radio during the season. They want to sing along. You can't do that with pan.
It's not easy to play pan on the road. Same with live brass bands. It used to be, but the DJs are cheaper and can play anything.
Pan should be given its own festival. Think of at least a week long, maybe two. Day after day and night after night of pan in every form. Pan jazz, pan classics, small ensembles, big bands (panorama).
Every night there could be a big headliner with a variety of music to suit a variety of tastes. So Mungal Patesar one night, Rudder the next, Groups led by people like Etienne Charles (similar to what was done recently at Phase II). All with some kind of pan presence. You can have boat cruises, beach parties, panyard tours, workshops, pan markets, seminars.
You could have big 'pay for' concerts as well as smaller 'free to attend' things on almost every corner.
Every bar should incorporate a panman at least for the duration of the festival.
It could be one massive pan thing that happens every year and could become one of the 'must attend' festivals, similar to the big music festivals that are held every year around the world in gig cities such as New Orleans, Montreal, Toronto and even St Lucia, which are attended by hundreds of thousands of people.
The week after carnival could be a good time, to take advantage of the people who already come for that. Many cities in the world already have some sort of pan festival, small but growing and at the Mecca of pan we have nothing.
We have the expertise and experience of having big parties every year, that can be directed to making this thing big and successful.
Pan on the road for carnival is trying to compete with the carnival which has its own agenda and following and which is not necessarily compatible with pan, even though they both grew up in the same neighbourhood.
Pan needs its own festival, properly organized and marketed to bring people here to experience it as well as bringing out the locals to support it. There is no point trying to make the carnival fanatics into pan jumbies, just give pan its own space.
Don't tell me it cannot be done.
Wayne Cezair, nothing else could ever attract the people that carnival does, steelbands just have to find a way to get some action. they have to take back their share of the market. Nothing much happens on Monday afternoon, give it to the steelband to do their stuff, ass and tits people have whole day Tuesday.
It could be done, BUT IT WILL LOSE MONEY. The notion that PEOPLE WILL COME TO TRINIDAD to EXPERIENCE PAN is a false notion. It have so much PAN ALL AROUND THE WORLD why would you fly to TRINIDAD to hear PAN? You will get a FEW EXPATS coming down for the event but not the barrage of tourists you all keep projecting.
Secondly, if the people of TRINIDAD wanted PAN ON THE ROAD FOR CARNIVAL they would HAVE PAN ON THE ROAD FOR CARNIVAL. Why do you think they have so much DEE JAY MUSIC -- because that is what the people want.
A handful of people on this forum cannot let go of the past and they want to recycle it; so this absurd discussion keeps recurring and recurring ....
It's easy to sit and point at NEW ORLEANS and TORONTO and MONTEREY and even NAPA (WINE VALLEY NORTHERN CALIFORNIA which is sure to grow fast in stature) just started a JAZZ FESTIVAL. But we miles away from that league for so many reasons.
So two things eh happening: PAN EH COMING BACK ON THE ROAD FOR CARNIVAL and TRINIDAD eh having no INTERNATIONALLY ACCLAIMED PAN FESTIVAL with tourists coming from all over the world.
I wish somebody would go into a studio and record a decent piece of PAN MUSIC that could get some global airplay; instead of all these PIPE DREAMS which have no roots in reality.
Valentine, yuh wasting yuh time trying to sway dotish people about pan on the road. They doh realize that they time past and it's up to young people to determine pan's direction for the future. Give them the trust and respect to make their decisions for the future of pan.
Living in Brooklyn, New York, affords me the opportunity to hear and see pan play throughout the United States of America. I don't have to wait on panorama to enjoy this magnificent instrument. Through this website, I am able to follow steelband festivals and other steelband shows on a regular basis (not yet retired, but sometimes that is what fanatics do). It is amazing to see the cross section of society that plays the instrument: from elementary students to university students to folks who just love the instrument. They play and enjoy, and always ready to tell you how they came about learning to "play pan." So pan progress may not be happening in TNT, but it certainly is happening here in the United States. Even the "Grammy" people getting involved by donating a sum to a particular school.
Mr. Young, you say the youths of today won't support pan in mas, what is your reasoning for that? Somehow the steel pan was shoved aside for other modes of music during the carnival festivities, but I am one fortunate individual to have played mas wid pan music, and feel dat steel in meh soul. How lucky some of us were to have been born during the time when pan ruled the roads for carnival. It may never happen again, but who knows? If you search the Internet you will see pan with mas in little known areas of the world, and it is creeping up. But I eh waiting for it, in the meantime I will follow pan festivals on de road.
Ms. Inez: That was a beautiful and sincere and soulful posting!!!
Valentine panorama will always be the greatest event for pan, without TT panorama steelband dead. Jazz cannot attract the crowd.
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