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Unfair to the Large bands in the semi-final

Posted by Royce Russell on February 21, 2011 at 12:30pm in Uncategorized

I am observing over the years the Large bands in the semi-final that perform after 11:00pm get an unfair deal. The majority of the thousands of people's start leaving around 10:00pm - by the time the last 5 bands reach the stage only the die-hard supporters are their to support their band. IT IS NOT FAIR

 

Pan Trinbago have to look into staging the National Panorama semi-final for small, medium and large bands on the same day - it always end up where the large bands perform in the wee hours in the morning - last night Birdsong reach the stage at 1:40am (monday morning) almost to an empty Grand stand and North stand. IT IS NOT FAIR

 

The 16 Large conventional bands should have their own semi-final between the hours 2:00pm to 10:00pm to enjoy all their magical steel drums with the full support of everybody.

 

The 28 small and medium bands could have their day. What do you think.....

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  • raymond thurton February 23, 2011 at 1:57pm

    In my opinion Pan Trinbago should simply reduce the number of bands so as to put on a comfortable and entertaining show for the semis competition.  I did not care for the vast majority of arrangements in all categories anyway.  So it was more like torture listening to bands like Renegades and others.  If I simply heard Phase II and Exodus I would be happy to close the show.  I listen to it on the internet anyway because I don't live in Trinidad.  I have the advantage of tuning in when the band is ready to play and spend the rest of my time doing what ever I want. 

    • Catt > raymond thurton February 23, 2011 at 2:36pm

       

       

      baaah haa haa haaa - the main purpose of the rama is NOT to "put on an entertaining show". it's primary purpose is not FOR the comfort of those of us listening and watching - that's only a side-effect - 

      the main purpose is for the BANDS THEMSELVES -  to have a chance to offer their music in competition.  so which bands you gonna tell they cannot participate, just to make it more 'comfortable' for people listening on the internet? 

       

      HA - i don't think so.

       

      the focus is the MUSIC.  not the audience.

       

       

       

      • AMD > Catt February 23, 2011 at 6:47pm
        You are so right. Once you know and appreciate the history of the bands here in Trinidad, you understand this. The audience, while a money-maker for Pan Trinbago, is a by-product, drawn in by the bands in fierce competition!
  • AMD February 22, 2011 at 8:12pm
    In some of the bands, if they play very late, too many of the players get too drunk. LOL, speaking from years of experience. Some are "veterans" and can handle their stories. Others can't.  It really is the luck of the draw. It's not good to be too early in your division, either. And some bands LIKE playing late, actually.
  • Ray February 22, 2011 at 1:48pm

    I think its the luck of the draww because sometimes people stay late to the major contenders anyway. It also happens when the major contender draw number very early in the day 9am or 10am. There still aren't many people there. In many cases even their own supporters aren';t there. So its the luck of the draw, possibly the only fair thing they have.

     

  • bigmacttwi February 22, 2011 at 1:05pm
    I will say it again...who vex lorse...if the large bands were subjected to the same rigour of qualification we would have no problem as far as the length of the semi finals were concerned. If there are 16 large bands subject them to a preliminary round of qualification...whittle them down to 12 in the Semis and then either 10 or even better 8 in the finals...Sunday's show finished around 1:30...if only 12 large bands played it would have finished by 11 p.m...the only reason for no preliminary for the large bands is because they all want to be on show at the semis...nobody want to remain in their panyard...nobody wants to lose...what is good for the goose is good for the gander too...prelims can't only be for Small, Medium and Single Pan bands...
    • Michael L Joseph > bigmacttwi February 22, 2011 at 1:17pm
      Thank you Brother, right is right, and fair is fair. Unless there is fear in some quarters?
  • Linda T. Bridgman February 22, 2011 at 12:49pm
    Yes the large bands should have their own day....
  • roberto codallo February 22, 2011 at 11:32am
    a few years ago the were two semifinal days sat and sun
  • Jeston Lett February 22, 2011 at 10:15am

    I think if the judges stick to Their criteria Bands wouldnt feel as slighted by lack of audience.. Unlike Competitions like SOCA MONARCH there's no element in the OFFICAL Judging criteria for CROWD RESPONSE.

    Judges, through Pan Trinbago, over the years have been able to adopt a WHAT WE SAY GOES attitude so they dont think its their JOB to give PROPER Feedback. I have seen some scoresheets over the years, and as a musician, arranger myself (not in panorama though) i wouldnt know where to start to improve with the kind of comments some arranger get.

     

    Its best the JUDGES WRITE: " HARD LUCK! TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR" .

     

    No feedback, No growth.

     

    FOR ALL THOSE WHO DISAGREE THAT PANORAMA NOT KILLING PAN, You ever smell a stagnant river???

     

    BLESS!!!
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