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  • Folks here is a link that details what really happened, please read it carefully. Also, I called the museum today and Saturday Sept 1st 2012 has not been reserved by WIADCA as of yet.

     

    http://www.nycaribnews.com/news.php?viewStory=2313

     

    GP

    • I forgot to mention the prize money in the article is incorrect, it should be:

      1st prize ....$25,000.00

      2nd prize....$20,000.00

      3rd prize....$15,000.00

      GP

      • Greetings! In the 1980s we (The Committee for West Indian Americans, Inc) were asking for that kind of money. Today it would have been, $250.000.000 $200.000, $1150.000. But the bands crumbled after having meetings upon meetings. Only one band leader stood up and that was "Colors" Do you know who he was and what band he represented in Brooklyn. NY.

        Only if pan men know how to sacrifice. I hope they don't compromise to any payment plan after Panorama suggested by, WIADCA.

        Pan men have the power to take over the Panorama today, thus leaving WIADCA out. This is a new era, new time, and new faces.

         

         

        • The time has come for younger pan people to step up and run things, I am afraid the old boys lack vision.

          • You are absolutely correct - You hit the nail on the head.   Pan veterans do not realize that some of the young pannists have fresh - new - modern entrepreneurial ideas, these young people grew up in the age of the entrepreneur - they think on a totally different level.  This also goes for the music and arranging,  these young people were raised in the Panyard - most were required to go to school and college.  Now its time to reap some of what they were required to do but are they allowed or encouraged????.  I would almost guarantee that if you check the Steel Bands that are thriving - they are full of young pannists that are encourage within the band, with their instruments musically and educationally. These young men and women are extremely smart and talented -  have learned from the best and gained a love and passion for the instrument and the Culture - They need to be given the chance to keep pan culture alive, vibrant, moving forward, profitable an growing.

          • Response by WIADCA

            http://www.nycaribnews.com/news.php?viewStory=2337

            • July 31, 2012

              Dear Members of the Caribbean Community:

              For nearly 40 years, on the Saturday before Labor Day nearly a thousand of our family, friends and neighbors, the vast number aged 12 to 21, compete in the Steelband "Panorama" competition.
              This competition is the culmination of weeks of work, as bands prepare for "ten minutes of glory" onstage performing an orchestral musical composition in front of thousands of spectators. 

              This year, amidst all the controversy about sponsorship and control, focus on the steelband musical artform has been lost in a battle of egos and politics.  So too has been lost the focus on the
              extraordinary effort and cost required for a steelband to prepare of the competition. Many hundreds of hours of practice and many thousands of dollars are required. And this year, all of that is endangered
              amid bluster and posturing of people whose interest is clearly not the music but the control of it.  

              Facts are facts:  the ten bands who competed in last year's are still owed a combined $52,000 from unpaid prizes, money sorely need to prepare for this year's competition.  This sum is comprised of $2,000 unpaid appearance fees

              for each of the ten bands that appeared at Panorama 2011 ($20,000) and a combined  $32,000 unpaid balance of prizes due the top three bands.  
               
              Facts are facts:  as of today the Museum has not received its rental fees nor the insurance documents required to secure the venue.  Consequently, there have been no official planning meetings held with the NYPD with Labor Day only a month away.
               
              Facts are facts:  despite numerous requests, WIADCA has not given evidence of its ability to pay either the prize monies owed for 2011 or the expenses required to stage Panorama 2012.
               
              While there have been many differences of approach amongst the steelbands who participate in Panorama, one thing is certain -- that the music must be respected above all. The bands have always sought a real stake in the planning, operation and finances of the Panorama including and especially a sound system worthy of the effort that the bands undertake.
               
              That doesn't seem unreasonable, does it? What is unreasonable is that the battle for control over the music has endangered the music itself.  That's unreasonable, and it's tragic.

              On behalf of all the players in all the bands, I implore all elected officials, sponsors and stakeholders to remember that Panorama should be all about music, not about control or money.  Egos and pettiness have already cost us the bands the meaningful corporate sponsorship oft he steelband in the United States. Everyone, please be honest with yourselves and with us, and let the music prevail.  

              Sincerely,
               
              Anthony Hinds
              Dem Stars Steel Orchestra and National Alliance of Steelbands

              • Another message from Mr. Hinds:

                More Facts are Facts:

                It is with great sadness that I inform the steelband community that four-time Panorama Champion CASYM has withdrawn from Panorama 2012.

                CASYM, a perennial contender for the championship, finished second in Panorama 2011. As such they were due a prize of $15,000 along with the appearance fee of $4,500. Along with first place ADLIB and third-place Radoes, CASYM received
                a partial payment of $5,000 from WIADCA some months ago. Previously they had received a partial appearance fee payment of $2,500. Consequently, CASYM was owed a total of $12,000 for 2011.

                Conversations with CASYM members indicate that the band simply could not manage the expenses of Panorama 2012 without receiving the balance of funds owed them for 2011. With the cost of arranger fees, tuner fees, uniforms, equipment and
                panyard rent looming, CASYM made a tragic and bitter decision.

                CASYM is the first victim of WIADCA's financial reality.

    • So when do the culprits admit their irresponsible actions, or will the audio tapes need to circulate? I know at least one of them reads this forum. The NY pan community deserves an admission to, and full explanation for this. Pending any sort of defense or explanation, I am profoundly disgusted as well as disappointed.

    • good content. and i absolutely agree, what a flicking miserable shame some a-hole who can't control his mouth, spoiled this excellent opportunity.  "disappointing" really doesn't even BEGIN to describe it.

      but i CANNOT help noticing the poor grammar and .... oh no they did not!   PIAnists?   seriously???

      no wait, my bad - i mean pianist.  they couldn't even get the plural correct.

        smdh.

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