why is the steelpan industry in Trinidad afraid of change? When will we be open minded to accept new ideas and push the arrangements of the steel orchestra to another musical level, instead of frenetic chromatics and the same chordal phrases.
Very good song by Narell for listening and enjoyment not for panorama. By the way, there was a rule that you must have someone singing the song but they may have changed the rules I suppose. The rule must have changed with this song otherwise most Panist would not go through the expense to include vocals and brass in their song.
Tel me I am wrong.
Pantrinbago must update their rules on the what the judges are looking for because some arrangers have done songs like this and they were thrown out.
I have said that panorama should be like the Soca and calypso competition. One category should be all about musical arrangements and technique in orchestra style and the other in the form it is presented right now.
Yeah, (responding to Gerald Pinto) Mr. Narell is doing a very good job. But somehow his music -to me- doesn't add up in the Panorama. Sorry... But I do love his music.
I played some really great music in panorama, and heard some great music, from arrangers,"Sugar for pan" was a very innovative piece however, Pandemonium did not deliver the goods, "I come out to play" Scherzando developed technical ensemble problems on stage, and another great piece of music feel off the wagon, I can go on and on, but the deal is, what is delivered on stage is all that matters, some past panorama winning pieces especially in the 60's and 70's were very simple but the performance was what did the gig, some time ago a very lousy video of boogsie was on this page, the audio was no good one could clearly see boogsie was having a bad hair day, wind blowing in the mics etc, people who never really hear boogsie had rash comments about him, this is carnival, its all about jump up etc, sometimes if the playing real good and there are enough show stoppers in the song the audience will listen and shh u and ask for quietnees, it is up to the band and the arranger to capture that, some of boogsies sweet ones went unnoticed , back in the day because of the old pans, a good song is one that is performed good, and not whether its 2 chords or two hundred,some of the best songs were "KISS"siple and stupid but very entertaining, music is to be enjoyed and appreciated not assessed and critisised
I have been a fan of Ray's music since" Pan on the run" and "Pan on the move".They didn't change panorama,so what's so special about this piece that there should be this" great debate"over it.It's no better than anything Ray has done.There we go again taking our own for granted while seeking a solution somewhere else.That being said,All Stars last year were wonderful. I could listen to that music over and over.Like the man said;there are 12 notes in music and you just use what the mood of the music demands .
not only is this piece electrifying it allows you to hear the sweet sounds of the pan with an uptempo you will be listening to a heavenly sound. last year when that young arranger set the standard for despers no one gave him a chance they all said it was all to slow it was the best thing i heard all year .now that you have a maestro that dares to bring something new maybe the name recognition will help but the judges and the great masses will fight it down because its not the usual monotonous of speed and non listening music that they interpret as panorama music we trinis are clones and stuck in a time warp of ignorance .i hope andt starts a new trend as to what is smooth lovely intelligent and appreciative music as the pan has evolved from just mono tones to that of a majestic instrument
Many may disagree with my comment ,But! if Andy can embrace the God Given Instrument of T&T The Steelpan as his own not leaving out the vision that he has for the the uplifment of such ,,I cannot see why his kind of music for the panorama should not be accepted appreciate ,there is a repetition of the said type of music by many Steelbands for years now being played so an intro of another style shouldn,t be discarded for there are listeners during the carnival season do enjoy a variety of arrangement and I,m commenting as a panman/tuner/trainer.with respect for all ,we do have a right to voice our opinion
best wishes andy do your thing, remember there is the girl you bring home to meet your parents and the one they tell you not to bring home! well the one you cant bring home is PANORAMA!!!
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why is the steelpan industry in Trinidad afraid of change? When will we be open minded to accept new ideas and push the arrangements of the steel orchestra to another musical level, instead of frenetic chromatics and the same chordal phrases.
Comment by Orleron Depeza just nowDelete Comment
Very good song by Narell for listening and enjoyment not for panorama. By the way, there was a rule that you must have someone singing the song but they may have changed the rules I suppose. The rule must have changed with this song otherwise most Panist would not go through the expense to include vocals and brass in their song.
Tel me I am wrong.
Pantrinbago must update their rules on the what the judges are looking for because some arrangers have done songs like this and they were thrown out.
I have said that panorama should be like the Soca and calypso competition. One category should be all about musical arrangements and technique in orchestra style and the other in the form it is presented right now.
Musician
I played some really great music in panorama, and heard some great music, from arrangers,"Sugar for pan" was a very innovative piece however, Pandemonium did not deliver the goods, "I come out to play" Scherzando developed technical ensemble problems on stage, and another great piece of music feel off the wagon, I can go on and on, but the deal is, what is delivered on stage is all that matters, some past panorama winning pieces especially in the 60's and 70's were very simple but the performance was what did the gig, some time ago a very lousy video of boogsie was on this page, the audio was no good one could clearly see boogsie was having a bad hair day, wind blowing in the mics etc, people who never really hear boogsie had rash comments about him, this is carnival, its all about jump up etc, sometimes if the playing real good and there are enough show stoppers in the song the audience will listen and shh u and ask for quietnees, it is up to the band and the arranger to capture that, some of boogsies sweet ones went unnoticed , back in the day because of the old pans, a good song is one that is performed good, and not whether its 2 chords or two hundred,some of the best songs were "KISS"siple and stupid but very entertaining, music is to be enjoyed and appreciated not assessed and critisised
Now you know, the allegro version gonna kick ass.
Sounding sweet.... Be down this weekend to hear it...
I have been a fan of Ray's music since" Pan on the run" and "Pan on the move".They didn't change panorama,so what's so special about this piece that there should be this" great debate"over it.It's no better than anything Ray has done.There we go again taking our own for granted while seeking a solution somewhere else.That being said,All Stars last year were wonderful. I could listen to that music over and over.Like the man said;there are 12 notes in music and you just use what the mood of the music demands .
not only is this piece electrifying it allows you to hear the sweet sounds of the pan with an uptempo you will be listening to a heavenly sound. last year when that young arranger set the standard for despers no one gave him a chance they all said it was all to slow it was the best thing i heard all year .now that you have a maestro that dares to bring something new maybe the name recognition will help but the judges and the great masses will fight it down because its not the usual monotonous of speed and non listening music that they interpret as panorama music we trinis are clones and stuck in a time warp of ignorance .i hope andt starts a new trend as to what is smooth lovely intelligent and appreciative music as the pan has evolved from just mono tones to that of a majestic instrument
Many may disagree with my comment ,But! if Andy can embrace the God Given Instrument of T&T The Steelpan as his own not leaving out the vision that he has for the the uplifment of such ,,I cannot see why his kind of music for the panorama should not be accepted appreciate ,there is a repetition of the said type of music by many Steelbands for years now being played so an intro of another style shouldn,t be discarded for there are listeners during the carnival season do enjoy a variety of arrangement and I,m commenting as a panman/tuner/trainer.with respect for all ,we do have a right to voice our opinion
best wishes andy do your thing, remember there is the girl you bring home to meet your parents and the one they tell you not to bring home! well the one you cant bring home is PANORAMA!!!
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