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Lord Blakie sang Steelband Clash in 1954, but the event took place in 1952[51].The clash in 1959 was with San Juan All Stars and Desperadoes combined with Tokyo by the hospital.

Lord Blakie sang Steelband Clash in 1954, but the event took place in 1952[51].The clash in 1959 was with San Juan All Stars and Desperadoes combined with Tokyo by the hospital.There was also another clash between two steelbands on Park Street between Frederich and Park Streets.This was not on a carnival day in the mid 50s. In those days steelbands were allowed on the streets on Discovery Day until the Baseball incident.

Teddy Pinheiro

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Comment by Andre-Roger Dellevi on September 18, 2014 at 10:59pm
As I suggested, all we need is a media clip from the after-math to Carnival 1950 as i suggested and ole talk done, ent...
Comment by EDWARD TEDDY PINHEIRO on September 18, 2014 at 9:30pm

Just to clear up the date of the clash by the hospital.Why that 1959 is so clear to m is because Cito Velasquez' band Fruits and Flowers got caught up in the melee.San Juan All Star was behind Despers complete with army tank. Tokyo was just behind.When the fight started San Juan in their retreat ran into Tokyo. Incidentally San Juan All Stars' bomb tune was "The end" song by Earl Grant [ if I remember correctly] Earl sounded a lot like Nat King Cole.

Comment by BEDE LOPEZ on September 16, 2014 at 9:44am

Von Martin, The san Juan All Stars/Desperadoes Steelband Clash was in 1959 by the Hospital not 1966. 

Comment by BEDE LOPEZ on September 16, 2014 at 9:41am

Teddy,The Invaders/Tokyo Steelband Clash was in 1950 also listen to the First part of the Calypso that Blakie sung,  these are the Lyrics," It was ah Bacchanal, 1950 Carnival, Fight fur so, with Invaders and Tokyo, Meh Friend run and left, his hat, When they hit him ah Baseball Bat, Never me again, to Jump in ah Steelband in Port of Spain"

Comment by Andre-Roger Dellevi on September 15, 2014 at 11:27pm
I am curious to understand why the account of the Steelband Clash in Carnival 1950 immortalized by Lord Blakie in his 1954 Carnival Road March is causing such disparate views in 2014. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DeyvpBznVnA

Not only were the Chantwell Kaiso which emmaneted from the Afro-Griot traditions usually "on mark" for oral commentary "word" in those days of ole, but we certainly can clear up any distortions and/or misundersatndings by confirming historical records from those with access, n'est-ce-pas?

http://www.nalis.gov.tt/Research/Databases/tabid/77/Default.aspx

http://uwispace.sta.uwi.edu/dspace/handle/2139/17577/browse?order=A...

http://whensteeltalks.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=2534462:Topic:46...

We seem to be mixing up pommecythere and navel oranges, ent...
Comment by Patricia Bevan on September 15, 2014 at 1:19pm

The clash with Highlanders was actually1965.

Comment by Patricia Bevan on September 15, 2014 at 1:17pm

The clash in 1966 on Charlotte street in front of the hospital did involve Highlanders.  That was the year they came out with the amplified pans and they were destroyed.

Comment by Ian Jones on September 15, 2014 at 12:11pm

Teddy is right - the San Juan All Stars - Desperadoes clash did take place in 1959 by the Hospital on Charlotte Street, and did not include Hi-Landers whom I believe were involved in another incident on Frederick Street in 1966.

Comment by Vonulrick Martin on September 15, 2014 at 10:48am

Teddy,

The clash with San Juan All Stars and Desperadoes took place on Carnival Tuesday of 1966 on Charlotte Street in front of the Port of Spain General Hospital. Hi Landers Steel band was in the middle and as a result of this was completely run over. All their pans were destroyed. 

Von Martin

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